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olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might come up in the debate, and you talk about those things and i can argue as persuasively as i'm
olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change...
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paul ryan knows how to debate. the question is whether he's going to be able, in a debate, to defend his stances and those of mitt romney. >> especially that ryan budget, up against joe biden. john nichols, great to have you with us tonight. thanks a lot. there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay with us. >> i'll tell you, you've got a great boss. he runs a great operation here. >> the federal election commission is now involved over mitt romney's use of coal miners as props. robert reich on the plutocrat's revolt is next. >>> the mother of a navy s.e.a.l. killed in benghazi asks mitt romney to stop using her son as a political prop. that story, ahead. >>> and congressman joe walsh has reached yet another new low. >> tammy duckworth, who's on a stage down in charlotte, if you can look at the picture, picking out a dress for her speech tuesday night. >> tonight, karen finney on why the tea party crazies could be facing extinction. begin. tomato, obviously. haha. there's more than that
paul ryan knows how to debate. the question is whether he's going to be able, in a debate, to defend his stances and those of mitt romney. >> especially that ryan budget, up against joe biden. john nichols, great to have you with us tonight. thanks a lot. there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay with us. >> i'll tell you, you've got a great boss. he runs a great operation here. >> the federal election commission is now involved over...
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paul ryan's family, paul ryan's business, paul ryan's whole life in janisville, wisconsin, when he was busy sitting there reading ayn rand and dreaming of a libertarian independent future, that whole life was made possible by the help of government. by social security supplemental income when his father died at a young age. by roads, by railroads, by government programs. this is a cooperative effort. and this is what mitt romney and paul ryan are rejecting and what joe biden and barack obama need too defend. it couldn't be more fundamental or more urgent, because without the counterargument, mitt romney is rocketing to the lead in the popular vote and he's catching up in the electoral college very quickly. it couldn't be more important tomorrow night. everybody says vice presidential debates don't matter. this one really does. >> i think it does. i think it really does. it's -- and i also think it sets the table for ryan to prove that hays the true conservative, that the conservatives want him to be. and the question is, is he going to leave that stage being the same guy or is he going
paul ryan's family, paul ryan's business, paul ryan's whole life in janisville, wisconsin, when he was busy sitting there reading ayn rand and dreaming of a libertarian independent future, that whole life was made possible by the help of government. by social security supplemental income when his father died at a young age. by roads, by railroads, by government programs. this is a cooperative effort. and this is what mitt romney and paul ryan are rejecting and what joe biden and barack obama...
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but it was spoken by paul ryan. making the case that that's how they can solve problems. >> arguing that it could be bipartisan but paul ryan was actually going back to the republicans' 2010 playbook. where it was all about lower spending and tax cuts. joe biden was sticking to the -- the attack line of the obama campaign which is that mitt romney's tax cuts don't work. he must be hiding some details. he's trying to pull the wool over your isles. gwen: all this came back to one basic thing which you can't trust the other guy. the first part of the debate was devoted, alexis, to a story you were covering this week on capitol hill as well as last night's debate which was what happened at the consulate in benghazi. and the administration has had some shifting explanations. >> a month away from the attacks on the anniversary of 9-11. and we still were hearing this week more questions than direct answers. and it has taken a long time for the administration to come around to suggesting two things. one was that their intel
but it was spoken by paul ryan. making the case that that's how they can solve problems. >> arguing that it could be bipartisan but paul ryan was actually going back to the republicans' 2010 playbook. where it was all about lower spending and tax cuts. joe biden was sticking to the -- the attack line of the obama campaign which is that mitt romney's tax cuts don't work. he must be hiding some details. he's trying to pull the wool over your isles. gwen: all this came back to one basic...
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been dominated by reactions to the presidential debate, but the focus changes within hours as paul ryan and joe biden prepare for their vice- presidential debate on thursday. that will be on the news cycle maybe until a week from tonight when the next presidential debate takes place and the narrative changes once again. only a month to go. >> and perhaps one way to describe the race is not red hot but perhaps bright yellow. we are talking about the controversial comments made about big bird and sesame street. after mitt romney pledged to cut funding for public broadcasting, the obama campaign used that to fire back. ken molestina is live with what the two are feuding over. >> reporter: mitt romney wants to cut funding, president obama wants to protect it. the big bird character who has gotten all the attention and a new ad out by the obama campaign is mocking mitt romney's stance. >> one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> reporter: it's the ad the political arena is buzzing over following mitt romney's comments to slash funding to pbs,
been dominated by reactions to the presidential debate, but the focus changes within hours as paul ryan and joe biden prepare for their vice- presidential debate on thursday. that will be on the news cycle maybe until a week from tonight when the next presidential debate takes place and the narrative changes once again. only a month to go. >> and perhaps one way to describe the race is not red hot but perhaps bright yellow. we are talking about the controversial comments made about big...
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debate, both ryan and joe biden won in terms of politics. the question at this point is how do the guys aet the top of the ticket, how do they capitalize on that? >> how do they move forward? >> mitt romney has to do what he did last week again or ten days ago. he needs to do that again. if you watched mitt romney he wasn't a good debater at all. i don't think he was in '07 or '08 or '11. but, boy, this year he's turned into a terrific debater. i think president obama has the greatest challenge. he's not joe biden. he's never given in the campaign so far as passionate the way joe biden did the other night. he has to do that. he has to be as convincing, probably more. he has to look like he wants it, like he's enjoying it as much as joe biden. >> like he wants to actually be there, be in the debate. >> and wants the job. >> we've seen a shake-up of sorts in the polls here lately with governor romney gaining some ground. today's tracking poll shows that mitt romney is now lead big two points there among likely voters. the romney camp pushing i
debate, both ryan and joe biden won in terms of politics. the question at this point is how do the guys aet the top of the ticket, how do they capitalize on that? >> how do they move forward? >> mitt romney has to do what he did last week again or ten days ago. he needs to do that again. if you watched mitt romney he wasn't a good debater at all. i don't think he was in '07 or '08 or '11. but, boy, this year he's turned into a terrific debater. i think president obama has the...
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ryan has got to respond. ryan is a detail person. i think if biden charges very specifically and effectively what the lies are, that both romney and ryan have been telling, based upon ryan's previous record it's going to be very difficult for ryan. that's exactly what joe biden ought to be doing. >> indeed he should. steve kornacki, professor robert reich, thank you both, gentlemen. >>> next, grab a pen. we have the latest lessons in science and history from the gop. stay with us. >> we all like pbs. i mean, i have grand kids, they love big bird and burt ander ni and so forth, but we borrow money effectively from china to make sure our kids don't have to watch advertising on pbs. my view is it makes sense to stop borrowing many and let our kids get used to corn flakes. >> sesame street was brought today by the letter "g" for grouch. the capital one cash rewards card gives you a 50% annual bonus. and everyone likes 50% more [ russian accent ] rubles. eh, eheh, eh, eh. [ brooklyn accent ] 50% more simoleons. [ western accent ] 50% more
ryan has got to respond. ryan is a detail person. i think if biden charges very specifically and effectively what the lies are, that both romney and ryan have been telling, based upon ryan's previous record it's going to be very difficult for ryan. that's exactly what joe biden ought to be doing. >> indeed he should. steve kornacki, professor robert reich, thank you both, gentlemen. >>> next, grab a pen. we have the latest lessons in science and history from the gop. stay with...
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paul ryan's first debate? as abc news noted today, "paul ryan has actually participated in at least eight debates during his 14 years in congress. that's according to available articles and information provided by the ryan campaign." first debate? ninth debate? what's the difference, really? we know what the truth is here, but we put our presidential candidate out to talk to the press on camera and just make stuff up about it that's not true? big stuff, small stuff, nobody expects that what mitt romney says at any given moment is anything that you can take to the bank. we'll just revise it later. i do not get this strategy on their part. i do not get why that campaign does not take their candidate's perceived trustworthiness more seriously? they squander it on even small stuff like this. but, anyway, momentum wise right now, obviously, all of the momentum is on the republican side in this race. they can try to play that down as much as they want to, but it is very, very clear from the polls. substantively, for
paul ryan's first debate? as abc news noted today, "paul ryan has actually participated in at least eight debates during his 14 years in congress. that's according to available articles and information provided by the ryan campaign." first debate? ninth debate? what's the difference, really? we know what the truth is here, but we put our presidential candidate out to talk to the press on camera and just make stuff up about it that's not true? big stuff, small stuff, nobody expects...
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van hollen has worked with paul ryan, he's a democrat from maryland, who worked with ryan with and against on the house budget committee. so van hollen is someone who's very familiar, not only with his policies. so the two of them will be participating in mock debates. they've done two to date, and i'm sure they'll be doing a lot more up until wednesday, before they head to danville, kentucky, for the big night. >> what is the biggest concern for mr. biden and his team? >> well, when they really would like to do is to change the conversation from last week's performance by barack obama, get to change that conversation on thursday, and to really talk specifically about the ryan budget. joe biden told reporters last week that what he's doing is looking at ryan's policies and seeing how he can apply them to the ryan/romney ticket as a whole. what they really would like to do is talk a lot about those ryan fiscal policies. things like kucutting spending, reforming medicare, looking at social security. what biden would like to do is talk a lot about those issues. one issue for the vice presiden
van hollen has worked with paul ryan, he's a democrat from maryland, who worked with ryan with and against on the house budget committee. so van hollen is someone who's very familiar, not only with his policies. so the two of them will be participating in mock debates. they've done two to date, and i'm sure they'll be doing a lot more up until wednesday, before they head to danville, kentucky, for the big night. >> what is the biggest concern for mr. biden and his team? >> well,...
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i think that paul ryan will do well also. but i think that the issue here is you have to remember whether for mitt romney's own gaffes or whether the media built up president obama's some figure who is going to do extremely well in this campaign and wipe the floor with mitt romney, it already set the bar so high for president obama he fell very flat. didn't come close to the bar. we have an issue paul ryan is thought to be this wonky nerd and when he comes out, if he can perform even half as well as mitt romney, they are overestimated or underestimating congressman ryan, i would say if they think he will come out and just throw out a bunch of numbers and stats and not put any hard or skin in the game so to speak. he has won a congressional district because he can relate to people. i think we are going to see some of that behavior if that debate tomorrow night. >> there were critics from the female side of the aisle that there was no conversation, no debate, between mitt romney and president obama about a woman's right to choo
i think that paul ryan will do well also. but i think that the issue here is you have to remember whether for mitt romney's own gaffes or whether the media built up president obama's some figure who is going to do extremely well in this campaign and wipe the floor with mitt romney, it already set the bar so high for president obama he fell very flat. didn't come close to the bar. we have an issue paul ryan is thought to be this wonky nerd and when he comes out, if he can perform even half as...
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if joe biden eats paul ryan for dinner is that going to change things dramatically? or is everybody really waiting for the next one? >> i don't think that paul ryan is on the menu -- >> oh, he is on the menu, don't worry about that. >> oh, i expect that vp joe biden will be very aggressive, an interesting test driver for the sorts of arguments and strategy that you might see come out of obama in the next week and next debate. if joe biden does well, i think you will see barack obama do well, and if it goes badly, i think people will say oh, that is just joe biden, he makes gaffes, i think it is very important for both candidates for many reasons, for ryan, it is really important because he still has to introduce himself to the american people. he is really going to get asked a lot of questions about his ideas. he has always been a bold guy putting ideas, out there. they will have to defend their positions. >> i think joe biden is a very experienced campaigner. he likes to get his gloves on and go for it. and paul ryan could be in trouble, cornered by a raging bull. >
if joe biden eats paul ryan for dinner is that going to change things dramatically? or is everybody really waiting for the next one? >> i don't think that paul ryan is on the menu -- >> oh, he is on the menu, don't worry about that. >> oh, i expect that vp joe biden will be very aggressive, an interesting test driver for the sorts of arguments and strategy that you might see come out of obama in the next week and next debate. if joe biden does well, i think you will see barack...
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let me ask you about the romney-ryan ticket. did they establish themselves? did they pass the threshold of being presidential enough? >> yes. >> yes, i think association yes, definitely. >> i join the chorus. chris: this weekend marks the 50th anniversary of the cuban missile cry sifments president john f. kennedy and khrushchev faced each other over 13 days and much of that time they faced down the hawks on both sides, with spy plane photos showing the russians assem bling missiles in cuba capable of hitting new york, and the top advisors, including the chief of staff of the air force to authorize immediate air strikes before the missiles could be armed by the soviets. kennedy had to weigh the hawks' advice against the reality that no air strike could be 100% effective. and the possibilities that russian retaliation could target berlin and thereby trigger an all-out nuke yar war, as robert kennedy wrote, "the final list of the cuban missile crisis is the importance of placing ourselves in the other country's shoes." president kennedy understood that the sovi
let me ask you about the romney-ryan ticket. did they establish themselves? did they pass the threshold of being presidential enough? >> yes. >> yes, i think association yes, definitely. >> i join the chorus. chris: this weekend marks the 50th anniversary of the cuban missile cry sifments president john f. kennedy and khrushchev faced each other over 13 days and much of that time they faced down the hawks on both sides, with spy plane photos showing the russians assem bling...
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in some ways i think with joe biden and paul ryan it's going to be an even more damaging conversation if ryan has to obviscate and come up with specifics because he's the numbers guy. >> he's going to be prepared. we'll be prepared. >> he doesn't have enough time it to answer the question, but going back to the theme of the day, what matters, the economy always matters. ever since the cold war it's been about the economy with the possible exception of '04, right? we're in the war of terrorism. >> even in '04 the exit polls showed that even though it was a foreign policy election, it was still about the economy. >> it's always about the economy. foreign policy is at best second or third most important. once again this foreign policy forray into mitt romney it may be a couple days lost. he's not talking about the economy on an area where i think it's impossible to catch up to barack obama. >> i do take the point that he needs to give a speech like this. it's necessary if you're running for president. it's not necessarily sufficient to win the presidency, but it's necessary that you do i
in some ways i think with joe biden and paul ryan it's going to be an even more damaging conversation if ryan has to obviscate and come up with specifics because he's the numbers guy. >> he's going to be prepared. we'll be prepared. >> he doesn't have enough time it to answer the question, but going back to the theme of the day, what matters, the economy always matters. ever since the cold war it's been about the economy with the possible exception of '04, right? we're in the war of...
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, it's congressman ryan who has specifics. he has an actual budget that vice president biden and reporters, quite frankly, can point to to say, in your budget, house budget committee chairman, you propose this, you propose that. where are you now? and the bind that congressman ryan is in, he's not the top of the ticket. governor romney is and governor romney said famously after they were chosen, paul ryan has his plan but i'm the candidate. i have my own plan. paul ryan is going to have to figure out how he can talk about what he believes and not run afoul of wherever governor romney might be on any of these budgetary issues, and especially medicare. >> it could be very interesting and very important given where we are at this stage, 29 days out. jonathan and margie omera, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> a new group intimidating voters at the poll. into plus, the folks at snl brought humor but there's a serious point to be made. that's ahead. [ female announcer ] you can measure the growth of children by the
, it's congressman ryan who has specifics. he has an actual budget that vice president biden and reporters, quite frankly, can point to to say, in your budget, house budget committee chairman, you propose this, you propose that. where are you now? and the bind that congressman ryan is in, he's not the top of the ticket. governor romney is and governor romney said famously after they were chosen, paul ryan has his plan but i'm the candidate. i have my own plan. paul ryan is going to have to...
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or are you running and paul ryan as part of the romney/ryan ticket? how much should we expect to hear tonight about the way paul ryan comported himself in the house of representatives? >> well, you know, rachel, mitt romney and paul ryan campaigned all throughout the state of wisconsin during the republican primaries, where mitt romney completely wrapped his arms around paul ryan's policies. paul ryan's budget. i think that is going to be a piece of the discussion tonight and i think that is, you know, part of what the american people need to decide on, whether or not they want a budget that protects tax cuts for those at the top but is cutting education, and veterans and clean energy, innovation, infrastructure, turning medicare into a voucher program. those are the types of choices that the meamerican people have before them and that will be part of the discussion tonight. >> you said earlier today, stephanie, that paul ryan and mitt romney are politicizing the attack in benghazi that killed our ambassador there. the republican national committee re
or are you running and paul ryan as part of the romney/ryan ticket? how much should we expect to hear tonight about the way paul ryan comported himself in the house of representatives? >> well, you know, rachel, mitt romney and paul ryan campaigned all throughout the state of wisconsin during the republican primaries, where mitt romney completely wrapped his arms around paul ryan's policies. paul ryan's budget. i think that is going to be a piece of the discussion tonight and i think that...
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. >> paul ryan has had eight previous debates. higher stakes, a lot of pressure. the vice president has to be feeling it a little bit, too. the president called him to wish him good luck. both sides recognize how does not take much to shift momentum. the vice president was cheered on as he arrived in kentucky. for anyone who thinks he has a take a few punches strategy, think again. >> paul ryan says he too has plenty of ammunition. >> what he cannot run from is president obama's record. >> joe biden has passion. paul ryan relies on power points. he'd better have specifics or he will likely be called out. joe biden will rely on foreign policy experience. he has been known to be gaffe prone. >> he made that all remark about the chains. >> what you see is what you get with the vice president. we think that is a real asset. and you trust them. you know that he is being honest. is there an advantage? republicans say of course. >> joe biden has been doing this since the 1800's. >> tonight, joe biden will make mincemeat of paul ryan. >> keep in mind, either way this is t
. >> paul ryan has had eight previous debates. higher stakes, a lot of pressure. the vice president has to be feeling it a little bit, too. the president called him to wish him good luck. both sides recognize how does not take much to shift momentum. the vice president was cheered on as he arrived in kentucky. for anyone who thinks he has a take a few punches strategy, think again. >> paul ryan says he too has plenty of ammunition. >> what he cannot run from is president...
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which is the vp candidate, paul ryan, he could do a ladies night. [laughter] >> yeah, they could try that. we have secrets. [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> i'm not one to speak for women. a lot of women that i speak you know, they have told me that this whole notion of a war against women, it was such an insult to their intelligence. mitt romney is looking to just destroy anything that women have made. neil: onto your thoughts on this. >> for his upcoming you came back across this subject. think about some of the war against women. this guy wants to take away everything that women have achieved over the last 30 or 40 years. on the other hand, you have a president that was one of the most striking debates i saw, was to not have his hands around basic facts and figures about the economy. people are saying in the business community is that a guy that's unconnected -- this detached could ruin another four years for the country. neil: you reminded me that things could change in politics. a week ago at this time, mitt romney couldn'
which is the vp candidate, paul ryan, he could do a ladies night. [laughter] >> yeah, they could try that. we have secrets. [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> i'm not one to speak for women. a lot of women that i speak you know, they have told me that this whole notion of a war against women, it was such an insult to their intelligence. mitt romney is looking to just destroy anything that women have made. neil: onto your thoughts on this. >> for his...
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that's what paul ryan believes. >> i know. it's pretty shocking because he clearly has not been where i've been. every day in washington, d.c., i see the folks, the working poor, out early on the bus to get to their jobs, the folks that work late cleaning and janitors and the various office buildings. i see tremendous discipline. and i see an incredible desire to really make a go for their families. he just is out of touch. that's why we invited him to come to cincinnati and meet some of our people, but apparently they are not coming. >> speaking of out of touch, you told e.j. dionne that the president has gotten disconnected from the people he cares about. explain what you're talking about. you think the president is disconnected? does he need to reconnect? >> that's why we invited him to cincinnati tomorrow, but i think the debate last week evidence that he got really into his policy side when really the conversation needs to be about the people that are struggling in our society. tomorrow we're hosting one man from clevelan
that's what paul ryan believes. >> i know. it's pretty shocking because he clearly has not been where i've been. every day in washington, d.c., i see the folks, the working poor, out early on the bus to get to their jobs, the folks that work late cleaning and janitors and the various office buildings. i see tremendous discipline. and i see an incredible desire to really make a go for their families. he just is out of touch. that's why we invited him to come to cincinnati and meet some of...
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the vice president really clashed with his republican rival, paul ryan. the two candidates interrupted each other in a 90-minute debate that was as fiery and contentious every minute from start to finish. the vice president and the gop nominee presenting different viewpoints. >> can you cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve these important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is. >> reporter: biden and ryan also challenging each other over foreign policy. >> the president of the united states has led with a steady hand and clear vision. governor romney, the opposite. the last thing we need now is another war. >> what we he unraveling of the obama policy. >> reporter: the two sparring over the hot button issue of health care. >> obamacare takes $716 from medicine cage to spend on obamacare. >> what we did is we saved $716 billion and put it back, applied it to medicare. we cut the cost of made care. we stopped overpaying insurance companies and doctors and hospitals. >> the vice president trying to shift the momen
the vice president really clashed with his republican rival, paul ryan. the two candidates interrupted each other in a 90-minute debate that was as fiery and contentious every minute from start to finish. the vice president and the gop nominee presenting different viewpoints. >> can you cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve these important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is. >> reporter: biden and ryan also challenging each...
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was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point mitt romney interrupted paul ryan is when he was saying, he was just acting so -- romney jumped in, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme court, i'm sure they were said last night. it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these guys have a social policy out of the '50s. >> that was joe biden's first major campaign appearance today after last night's big event with paul ryan. now, paul ryan's first public appearance after last night's debate was not that moment on the tarmac with mitt romney with the funny microphone, it was actuall
was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point mitt romney interrupted paul ryan is when he was saying, he was just acting so -- romney jumped in, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme...